The fear of cancer / tumour returning
When do you stop having that niggling doubt or fear at the back of your mind that the tumour may come back? When does that dark cloud lift to let the sunshine in? Is it when the 4 weekly blood tests stop?
Hi Jules,
I am sitting at my desk at work and so far I have had my lunch (left over dinner) at 10:20am! He he. I just cant shake it. It feels like groundhog day - and I find that the docs are very sketchy about what they are telling me, because it is rare, its almost as though they are uncertain themselves. I dont have a vote of confidence yet. The anxiety I think is worse than anything else I think....
Hiya Teachers Mum
Wow, i had a rarish cancer too which was also very unpredictable, so i could never be given anything concrete as such. It is tough doing the waiting game and we think we know what patience is all about? Reality is that its just a time thing and nothing much can change that. Reality is also that you are doing the right thing in voicing what is happening for you. I can just say it gets easier, which i know that at the moment thats no help at all!
Julie
This is cliche but time heals all wounds. I am now 3 years out, I still have 2 monthly BT but I now find myself forgetting them all the time...I know its so bad. The longer i go without complications the better i feel about it all, I do however find that situations set off my anxiety of return.
My cancer was diagnosed when my son was a few months old, I knew I was possibly sick in pregancy. I just had my 2nd bubba 6 months ago and found the anxiety during pregnancy was unbareable.
Be kind to yourself and allow yourself to go through the motions, this is not a little thing we all went through its big...its only normal to fear facing our mortality.
XX Amanda
Hi there,
I am going to the oncology department on Monday to hopefully sort out some answers. I had my test today and I feel a little better about the whole process, but I find the day before the test I get into an awful tizz and wonder why I bother with it all. I ask them - have you taken it all out, well yes...we think so...we hope so. So that makes me a little nervous, on top of the fact that I am the only one in the state of Victoria with this tumour (and no I dont feel special he he!)Will it return? well we are not sure etc and so forth.
My apologies for the rant - I am feeling somewhat insecure standing on what feels like medical quicksand.
Cheers
Me
Hi Teacher Mum,
It doesn't go away, it just becomes less dominant. Many years ago a colleague emailed me to say that, the shadow is always there, but it becomes confined to a small room in your mind - the rest is there for the sun. Another acquaintance, fourteen years after his diagnosis still goes and has an annual blood test. He does it just before Christmas, and when it comes back as all OK, he calls it his Christmas present. We all develop ways of managing the shadow, some of them more inventive than others.
I am still on three monthly tests and for a few weeks before hand I get difficult to live with, so if you are only getting into a tiz a day or two beforehand then you are doing well.
Cheers
Sailor
Hi teacher/mum,
The fear is always going to be with you it's just all depends on how you cope with it and not letting it take control of your life ( which it does sometimes). I was diagnosed with B.C at the age of 31 in 2006 so it will be 3 years for me this month - what a hard journey it is and still going. As time passes by it does get a bit easier but it is always going to be with you. A lot of people i know like my friends and family presume that once i finished all of my treatments and got my hair back from chemo i should of moved on by now," far out" give me a break!!! i am only human to be feeling fear, worry, anger, sadness,loss and etc.. wouldn't they be feeling the same way if they went through it??? its something you can't explain to people who have never experienced this awful deadly disease but only you and I and other cancer patients would know this feeling. At times i must admit, i would feel a pain in my body thinking OMG is it my cancer, did it spread elsewhere in my body and so on.... cancer has changed my life dramatically in a negative way and positive ways too. Its also taken the opportunity that i might not be able to have another child too which i am blessed i have one already but trying to explain this to others is like hitting into a brick wall ( even though they have more than one child themselves) telling me i should be happy and blessed - OMG as if i am not grateful for my little girl but i am only being a mother wanting another child - isn't that normal... wouldn't they feel the same way if that was taken away from them ?? ofcourse they would but they have no idea so i really can't be bothered sharing my grief and sadness with anyone but myself and with my husband...
Try to live your life the best way you can, don't listen to anyone, if you feel fear, worried, anger, sadness its all very normal its just trying to control our emotions thats all, remember you are allowed to feel these feelings - you are only a human being and not a robot.....
Take care
Missy Moo
Hi guys,
This is my dominant fear, but it is fading. Sailor I love the image of the shadow.
When I was OS, even though I was with a friend whose husband had died from cancer 4 yeras ago, I realised one day, that I had spent the whole day not thinking about my cancer. It was a wonderful moment. My friend and i would often talk about the nature of the disease but I was able for the first time in 2 years to talk without the fear all the time.
I hope that this moment comes for you too.
Samex
oh I am soooooooooo glad I found this site and even more glad I am not the ONLY one who feels this way!!! Although in a way I am saddened that we even have to be feeling that way in the first place. My question to all who replied before me... what tests are you going monthly etc that is checking you for cancer?????I am 18 months post bilateral mastectomy and haven't had to go for any tests???? Now I am even MORE worried lol
Sally
Hi Sally,
I had bowel cancer diagnosed in August 2007, 6 months of chemo after surgery.
Initially I had 3 monthly blood tests. These have stretched to 6 monthly and annual CT scans. The blood tests looked for bowel cancer markers. I also have an annual colonoscopy. My understanding is that this pattern will continue for anther 3 years. Not sure what happens after that.
Be assured that you certainly are not alone in the fear department!!
Samex
Hi Sally
It all depends on your type of cancer, whether or not it has markers for it that can be detected in the blood, whether or not the clinical evidence says that there is little chance of it returning. In my case I have an aggressive cancer, it keeps recurring and there is a blood marker for it, so I am fairly closely monitored. Your situation is quite different.
That doesn't say that you live without the fear of it coming back - that is with everyone of us. The shadow is always there in that room of the house of our mind. It may be a monster trying to break out and all we seem to be doing is hammering planks over the doorway. It may just be something small in a small room and we spend most of the time in the sunlit rooms. But it is there all the time and each one of us has to find a way of living with it - it will be our unique way.
If you are worried about being checked - go back to your treating team and ask them. Don't be afraid to go and get some counselling - you can now get in of medicare and your GP can arrange it. Don't be afraid of using the cancer helpline 131120, it is not just for newly diagnosed people.
Good luck
Sailor
But the sea is a mighty soul, forever moaning of some great, unshareable sorrow, which shuts it up into itself for all eternity. Lucy Laud Montgomery, Anne’s House of Dreams
Hey all,
Well tomorrow (or should i say today!!!) is my last chemo. I still have radiation to go in the new year though. But as things come closer to the end i get more and more nervous and fall apart. I never imagined that my life would be like this. I had it all planned i was the organised one with everything mapped out. I have HL and have gone through 4 rounds of chemo. As much as i want treatment to finish, at the same time i dont. When you are having treatment you know the cancer cant grow or come back. What do i do once it all ends?? How do you start again??? How do i start living again??? For the past 5 months cancer has been my life, its in my thoughts, my dreams, my actions, my conversations. It seems i have been existing while the world kept living.... I dont want it to continue to consume my life, but i dont want to just pretend it never happened. I am already so scared about relapse and i havent even finished treatment. Any advice????
I hear you...On the outside I look like this cool composed woman who is strong willed and knows what she is doing. But on the inside I am screaming my head off. I too think exactly like you mentioned. You try not to focus on the cancer but it is hard to NOT think about it. I get busy with my life, family work but when everyone has gone to bed the monsters come out and all the self doubt rolls into my head. I imagine all the cancer cells just partying all over inside and no one notices because they are just doing it quietly. There is no pain so nothing to investigate, no lump so nothing to biopsy, no health complaints so no reason to be sent for an MRI "just in case" so my imagination runs rampart.
I too would be very interested in others that have gone through this a long time ago what they did to get over this newness hump to go through even one day without thinking about it
Hi Charmaine and Smilesonly
Two issues here. For a while now you have been in a routine that involves going in for chemo and that is coming to an end, so it is a time of transition and transitions are uncomfortable for all of us. The second issue is the fear of the cancer returning - the shadow that lives with all of us. If you talk to people twenty years after successful treatment, they will say that it is still there. I watched an SBS insight program on cancer a couple of years ago and the former Australian cricketer Simon O'Donnell commented that there was never a day when he didn't think about his cancer. He called it the life sentence of cancer. I believe that was twenty years after treatment for Hodgkins lymphoma. But it doesn't have to dominate our lives, it can be confined to a very small area of our mind, and generally over time it will.
To help to get to that stage it might be helpful to talk to someone about this. Use the cancer helpline 13 11 20. Talk to your treating team and ask to see a social worker or a psychologist. Talk to your GP and ask to arrange to see a psychologist under the medicare program. Believe me it helps.
Cheers
Sailor
I keep sailing on in this middle passage. I am sailing into the wind and the dark. But I am doing my best to keep my boat steady and my sails full. Arthur Ashe
Hiya everyone
It does pass with time and i know that sounds like "oh yeah" but it really does. While you are waiting for it to lessen is the hard bit. I agree with sailor re contacting someone to help you out and the cancer council is a great place with lots of wonderful people and resources.
Have a merry christmas
Julie
Hi guys - Charmaine and Smilesonly,
Couldn't agree more with the above. I wish that I had contacted professional advice when I first finished treatment. I just thought I was weak and bonkers when life didn't return to normal immediately.
Even nearly 2 years down the track I struggle at times. However, even though the shadow (as Sailor so effectively calls it) is in a smaller place than it was, my New Year's resolution is to see my GP and start some counselling. I have had a bad week of tears and not coping with the trivial and mundane tasks at all well - time for some help!
BAck to your thoughts and away from mine - the thoughts become less invasive but the monsters do still pop up when you least expect it. My problem is not dealing with the diagnosis of someone else and the fear returns with a vengeance. I believe that you MUSt talk about it to someone who is willing to listen or you will go bonkers. This site has been great for me in this regard.
I'm sure that it was Sailor who commented on another blog that we don't cope but we manage our living with cancer and when we are able to manage a little better then the gremlins become less invasive.
On a personal note - I had a very impromptu trip to New York with a friend in October and the rushing around with that helped me to think that I can get on with some of the things in my life and that every minute is precious. Even the preparations were fun because it was different.
Be kind to yourself and TALK!!
S
Lots of food for thought here - I have decided that if and when I die from this gynae or secondary tumour should it amount to that I will do it with my boots on. So tomorrow the kids and I will be going to Canberra to visit the Masterpieces from Paris exhibition - pop in to Southern NSW and have a gander at Mount Kosciuszko and catch up with old friends. In the process I have offended a few in law family members - bugger it, if I need to choose time wisely, ill do so with the people I like he he! So tell everyone Im on my way and who knows where the journey will lead but with the blue skies above us who could ask for more, hold me down, I cant wait!
Hey teach!
You and me both!
Hope you have a fantastic time away and your trip sounds like its going to be particularly great.
Oh and i keep forgetting to tell you and samex about a time when i got out of hospital. It was at my son's 21st and the young boy (15) from down the road was there. He commented to me that he was very sad when one of his teachers was diagnosed with cancer and he felt that way when he heard about me also. I thoght it was amazing that he bothered to say anything to me and the fact that he could articulate re his teacher too. 
Have fun teach.
Julie
Good to know that there are some sensitive souls out there!
I had a beautiful card from my yr 9 class that I still have.
Gives you hope.
Enjoy the trip to Canberra. I'm hoping to get there these hols as well.
S
Hi there,
Had a blast - although the demons have returned with the news that one of our beautiful students lost her fight against an aggressive cancer which reminded me again just how precious life is and once again, called the Cancer Helpline. There was a sense of 'disappointment' in our household that I was 'doing so well' and 'something like this' made me 'sad' again. Right now I am feeling a tad cross and a bit miffed. Jules I got your message, thanking you
Its nice to be remembered he he
Grrrr. I dont know I am trying to detox and destress. I have booked myself into one of those look good feel great programs - I mentioned to the lady look I have my hair although its short and may not be much of it since I will be doing the Worlds Greatest Shave - but I have a really big hysterectomy scar if that counts...she thought it was funny.
Hope you guys are going ok. Ta for listening to my intellectual and emotional vomit.
Teach.
xxx
Hi There Teacher Mum
Good to get your posting and to read your responses to what life throws at us. In spite of all the other stuff that goes on, on this site and elsewhere, you can still feel kicked in the guts now and then. Just before Christmas I attended the funeral of a lovely lady who had been such a campaigner on behalf of those affected by cancer. Cancer finally caught up with her, two years after it was expected. Two good years with good quality of life. Last Friday I attended another funeral - a friend who was just so active, diagnosed with liver cancer and dead three weeks later. Two days ago another friend 'phoned me asking for some help. Six weeks ago she was given "No evaluable disease' status following a rare cancer of the small intestine. She was taking a break from chemo and went in for repair of a hernia. They discovered a whole lot of cancer that was not there six weeks ago, including ascites! It really takes it out of you!
So congratulations on what you are doing and have real laugh at the 'look good feel good' program with your shaved head and hyster scar.
Cheers
Sailor
A strong nor’-wester ’s blowing, Bill!
Hark! don’t ye hear it roar now?
Lord help ’em, how I pities them
Unhappy folks on shore now!
The Sailor’s Consolation
Hi Teacher Mum,
It's interesting how much more sensitised we are to bad news. It is shattering to hear of your student. I lost it at one stage last year when the father of one of my yr 12 kids died 2 weeks before the HSC. After roll call I just went back to the staff room and sobbed.
Glad that the trip was fun, however. Enjoy the girly thing!
Hey Teach
Glad to hear you had a blast!! Sorry to hear about the student and yes that sort of thing haappens sadly. I went to a funeral today of a man who was 49 and he just died in his sleep. I think the thing with all of this is finding a balance in our thoughts. There are people that do die from cancer but alternatively there are a heck of a lot of people who survive. My first cancer that i was diagnosed with i was given a month to live or perhaps x amount of years. They didnt know and it was really a case of "time will tell" and yet when they rang me with some results from my clear out operation the news was not good according to them. 3 out of 18 nodes were infected. Well, i said to the surgeon that called ... tyvm but i will take those odds. There was a somewhat stunned silence on the phone, so i went on to explain to them. I said "you could have run me and told me that more than that were infected, so ty i will take that and run with it". Sure it took some time for every little ache or cramp to not be thought about as cancer in my head, it does happen though.
I think we also need to be realistic with ourselves too. In that its actually ok to be sad because really we have something to be sad about, once again the trick is to not stay there!!
I hope you are feeling a little better and that you have been polishing those boots!
Julie
Hi there,
Still feeling somewhat agitated. Seems like I have upset the family equilibrium and people are frantically trying to 'get me better'. It seems that feeling sad or down for 72 hours is a cause for concern he he
Far out!
Time for meditation and gardening methinks.
Dont forget your gardening boots!
Well wasn't today eventful. My little girl scrapped her ankle and I went to give it a Mummy fix and broke out in sweats, lost my vision for 10 seconds, literally took my clothes off and sat down on the bathroom floor. This in conjunction with the vertigo over the past 6 weeks, loss of memory etc hubby said time to go into emerg. After a neuro assessment of flashing lights into eyes and reflex tapping I was told I was right as rain and to go home. This is the pearler "there may be something building up but for now, you are ok."
*sigh*
What to do, what to do....
awww hugsss teach ... stress could be the builder here yanno?? Bit of a viscious cycle and i know first hand thats a hard cycle to break at times, hence me sending you hugsss cos sometimes a hugsss is a one size fits all thing!!
Julie
Thanks Jules - I did some meditation last night and didnt feel so stressed this time around - just so much going on and I need to take these last 2 weeks of school holidays as relaxed as possible before the madness starts. I suppose its occasions like these that makes us more aware of our own mortality. xxx
Hey Teach
Glad to hear you managed some meditation. It is really a big thing when the chips are down and we can draw on past experience and things we have learnt to help us through.
Yes, it does make us think of our own mortality and can bring up all those fears again. I have come to the conclusion that we go through a process. There are no short cuts in this process and its simply something that we have to go through. I try and do it through the path of least resistance. When ya down ya just gotta be there sometimes, but, am always mindful to not stay there. 
I think i am going to go for a swim today, first one for the year. I love the beach and find it incredibly soothing. Perhaps i could liken it to my meditation.
take care, teach
Julie
Hi Teacher Mum, Hang in there ... There is no magic formula for overcoming the fear of cancer. One important thing, though, is to live each day well and to do something for yourself - something that makes your heart sing. Best wishes
Dear Teacher Mum,
I am coming up to the 8 year remission mark and I have to admit, the fear does go away for a while, and then it comes back. I have only just managed to shake the worry last year and am feeling the best healthwise. Your positive, happy blogs despite what you are going through is very encouraging.
Joyhoney
Thanking you all for taking the time to respond. Tomorrow I have a CT scan scheduled. My 'head' hasnt been quite right with vertigo, memory loss, facial aches etc so its 'in the machine' we go......although I have started living in the now and not worry too much about the past or the future.
you can do it teach ... tis like baking a muffin not a cake ... just shove out the bits you dont want!
Thinking of you today.
Kind regards and hugz to you,
Jill.
In my thoughts,hope everything goes well for you ,
Huggs
Juliex
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Hey Teacher Mum
For me it was a time thing as so often all of this "stuff" (i love that word ... lol) is. Just be kind to yourself when you are coming up for a result try different things to get through the situation.
I cant remember last time how long it took. I went from weekly checks to fortnightly etc... until after 3 years they didnt want to see me anymore. I just remember that it did pass with time. Sorry i cant be of more help and hugsss cos its not a nice phase to go through.
Julie